Always Married or Gay

posted by A on 2013/3/1 (Comics)

And back to everyone's favorite soap opera, Turrick and the Maid!

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leakingpen2 - 2013/3/8
to let everyone know, my plan is to do 3-4 pages of the main cast, 1 or 2 pages of a side story, back and forth. so one side story interlude, either werewolf or laris and the heroes, and then back to a longer chunk of the main cast.
Sad Panda - 2013/3/4
Nope, not clear. Definitely thought it was foreshadowing. As I said, I know this has to happen as a side effect of Aldran and company going to meet them. It doesn't make this any more bearable. So long as we do get back to the anti-heroes, I can continue to endure the side-plot. Hopefully, so can everyone else.
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/4
I started to write out a long explanation of my reasoning but then I realized it was all dry uninteresting shlock and that this entire conversation is completely inane. Let's just agree to disagree.
leakingpen2 - 2013/3/4
It shouldn't be a spoiler to say that Turrick (and the heroes/laris) will eventually rejoin the anti-heroes. So we WILL have to tie up these loose end storylines. Hence the back and forth. Her comment about, Happily? was her hitting on him. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Old gag.
Dissolve - 2013/3/4
I thought it was funny.
Night Templar - 2013/3/4
Because it would be awkward if she just asked him if he was married happily and then just stopped talking without some kind of closure.
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/4
That doesn't answer my question. WHY is that the end of the conversation?
Night Templar - 2013/3/4
We're supposed to feel sorry for him because he's got a wife left behind when he died.

The reason it ended on that panel is probably because that's the end of the conversation.
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/4
We're supposed to feel sorry for him because the woman finds him cute? I'm talking about the last panel specifically here. Can you tell me what possible reason a writer would have to end things on that particular line, when it accomplishes nothing immediately obvious to the viewer, if not for humor's sake? We already established the guy's nature and his relationship with his wife, and the last panel could have followed up on that in some way instead of randomly noting that this other woman finds him cute. The only thing I can grant you is that it could come up again for some reason (I doubt it), but even if it does all that accomplishes is retroactively making this comic slightly more relevant. At this point in the story we have absolutely no reason to care about how this random man is "cute".

The only reason I can possibly justify cutting off at that point is if it was meant to be a joke, or, at the very most, foreshadowing disguised as a joke. If it's not funny, and it's not dramatic, and it doesn't accomplish anything that the rest of the comic didn't already accomplish (we already know from the rest of the strip that the guy is married and the characters are going to bed), and it doesn't help to flesh out any of the characters, then why are we focusing on it? If it's not intended to be humorous on some level, I honestly have to chalk it up to shoddy writing instead. The end to a strip should either conclude the events that occurred in some way (whether it be humor, drama, etc.), or set up some sort of tension to be resolved in a later strip, and this one does neither. If I try to read the strip without the interpretation of humor in the last panel, I'm just left sitting here thinking "What, that's it? Who cares?".

Now this all being said... if the strip IS intended to be humorous as I first assumed, it doesn't really speak well that half the audience didn't even realize it was a joke. So there's that too, I guess.
The Ancient One - 2013/3/4
Every time we come back to these guys, my first thought is that Jordan didn't get the team anything new that they can work with. We waited months to see the return of the anti-heroes, and when we finally do, we barely see any plot movement there before we are whisked back to the 2nd stringers again to provide more filler.

Jordan: If you care anything about your characters, the story or the fans, give the team access to "everything" and get the hell out of the picture. You are stalling what could be a great story.
Night Templar - 2013/3/3
Xykeb Zraliv: Because that's the point when the comic finished serving its purpose. Now we have a reason to feel sorry for him so we probably won't just say "meh, the guy deserved it" and we know that everyone went to sleep.
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/3
I guess so... but if I'm not supposed to laugh at that, what reason could they possibly have to cut off at that particular point? It's not a dramatic line, nor does it accomplish anything in particular storywise except (maybe) very minor foreshadowing (which could be said about almost anything said in this strip). There are other, better ways this strip could have ended, if it wasn't meant to be humorous.
David - 2013/3/3
I didn't see last lines as punchline but rather showing the type of character, just like "fun for you"... "yes"

Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/2
I think it's a little of both. It's not purely a punchline, but it definitely seems like it's supposed to be humorous in nature. I mean, if it's not, that's a really awkward cutoff point.
Sad Panda - 2013/3/2
It feels more like an attempt at foreshadowing their demise than a punchline. Regardless, there was no humor in this strip. I was honestly looking forward to following Aldran and company again...But I suppose this is a part of that considering they are meeting Turrick eventually. It is a rather ponderous sub-plot though.
Night Templar - 2013/3/1
Huh. I didn't really see the last few panels as a punchline, so that was what I was trying to argue about. I do agree with most of the other things you say.
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/1
I'm pretty sure that when "Me" said the story went nowhere, what was actually meant was that the plot progression (which undeniably does exist) is uninteresting and doesn't lead anywhere meaningful. I have to say that I'm no longer interested in this subplot myself, although that's obviously just my opinion.

As for humor...regardless of whether every strip needs to have a punchline or not, I honestly have to say that I've found very few (if any) of Leakinpen's jokes genuinely funny, even when they do appear. Maybe that's just me.

In regards to this particular comic, though, the last few panels are very clearly intended to be a punchline so I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue here -- it's true that not every comic needs to have a punchline, but this particular one does, and apparently "Me" didn't find it funny. (Neither did I, for that matter.)

I dunno, I guess I feel like "Me" was sort of unspecific and overly forceful with his (her?) opinion, but I do think it's a valid opinion to have nonetheless.
Night Templar - 2013/3/1
Other Me (not the Me with the email address or myself): I have to disagree. The plot does progress, and this sequence would have to be shown for things to make sense, and besides, not every single comic has to have a punchline, and even in comics primarily about being humorous, there have to be some comics that set the stage for funnier comics. You simply cannot expect any comic to have a punchline every single strip.

Personally, I think this comic works okay as a return to this sequence and to let us know what happens. I'm just hoping he realizes that she means they're gonna break up when he's literally broken up.
Mad Lemmey - 2013/3/1
I get it... and it builds into the plotline of the antiheroes waiting for a night for them... Nice to see another fine strip that builds into the longer picture gents! Very happy
Tatsu - 2013/3/1
yeah, I'm kind of confused for today's comic
Xykeb Zraliv - 2013/3/1
I think I know what you're going for with these, but the "I, uh, well/that is/etc...." lines like Turrick's in this one or Paul's a few strips ago always seem kind of hollow and artificial to me, like you're doing your best to broadcast that these characters are unsure what to say. It's very jarring to see Turrick immediately switch from a direct accusatory tone to awkwardly trailing off -- especially when there are more appropriate reactions to this woman admitting to enjoying killing people (or engineering this situation, or whatever) that he could be having, like shock or anger, or even just suspicious stoicism, if you felt that was appropriate. As it is, his weird, avoidant tone makes it sound more like she's accusing him of something than vice versa.
Me - 2013/3/1
I'll be first to say it's not funny and the story goes nowhere.
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