There Are Better Spells For This Kind of Thing

posted by Jordan on 2010/3/9 (Comics)

Alright, so first of all, let me apologize up front. As I usually tend to do. I really don't know why I disappeared for over a month, aside from "work reasons." I could potentially blame it on Mass Effect 2 stealing a lot of my time, but I don't actually find myself playing it a lot. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic game, but I just haven't had time to sit down and really play it, much less sit down and make a comic...

Anyway, for anyone who still actually cares about this website, here's the issue I promised so long ago. Once again, my apologies for the wait.

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Kelana - 2013/10/20
Do you guys remember when he was maikng Danger Girl and it was a success but he couldn't keep up with the schedule and issues kept coming later and later and I eventually gave up on it. Dennis
sparky22 - 2010/5/8
@magic9mushroom

Oh, please. Seriously?! It doesn't take much effort to check a web page to see if there's an update.

Anyway, see the farthest right icon at the bottom right of the comic? That's the RSS feed and means you don't have to come to the page and moan about there not being an update.
Aramil - 2010/5/7
@crazed do you have any idea when the next comic will be up, or when Jordan will tell us what's happening?
magic9mushroom - 2010/5/7
Okay, officially 2 months now.

Seriously, Jordan, it would be a good idea to at least post something every now and then - I'm getting a little sick of checking this page every day only to find nothing of note.
Aniuch - 2010/5/5
I know...but that landmark is probably a nadir. Unless we have further to fall...
Brian - 2010/5/5
...Heh. 100 comments. Gotta be a new landmark. Wink
Fool - 2010/5/4
JORDAN QUIGLEY! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US!

...Ahem. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
AH - 2010/5/4
Ok... I started reading this a couple of days ago and now I've reached this point.

I love the comic and I'm sure it will resume in due time.

Farewell.
leper0messiah - 2010/5/3
I take great comfort in knowing people post on this page (even those saying the comics dead) 'cause it means people are still checking and the comic aint dead with awesome fans like all you guys! Very happy

sappiness aside, I also take pleasure in knowing that Jordan is a student and like most students (including myself) is far too busy to work on his fancomic but will get to it over the summer...unless he gets a summer job...damn it...

that's my 2 cents for the dead debate my 2 cents for the defination of anti hero is that while there are many personal definations mine is a hero who is just too bad ass to be good and even breaks the rules constantly. Or maybe even someone like deadpool, he's not really a "hero" much more a mercenary who does what he pleases (good or bad) but people still regard him high esteem? Like as a hero? Anyway it's a personal thing in my opinion

anyway I typed waaaay more then I intended and (like jordan) I have school tomorrow and shouldn't be up this later q:
chou
Red XIV - 2010/5/3
Clertar: That's one type of anti-hero. There's also the type that's just way too brutal to be a traditional hero. See: damn near every new comic book character introduced in the 90s.
Aniuch - 2010/4/30
Emphasis on the quotation marks round "good": they've become more, um, I don't know, heroic when they used to be a mildly dysfunctional bunch of jerks and normal-ish people.
Minnie - 2010/4/30
Hmm, there have been no messages from the author, and no updates...

There could be only one conclusion. Jordan Quigley must be dead.
Brian - 2010/4/29
To me, someone without heroic attributes IS villainous, most of the time. So, different definitions of the same thing, I suppose. (How far we've fallen to debate so minor things... Tongue )
Clertar - 2010/4/29
Anti-heroes are not supposed to be villanious. AN anti-hero is, for example, Woody Allen's characters in his movies. Someone who is the "hero" of the story but has no heroic attributes whatsoever, the opposite of a typical hero -an anti-hero Wink
Brian - 2010/4/29
Whole Point? Nah. Most of it? Sure, why not? Tongue
(The comic will probably end when Arderas dies due to, well, comics being hard to make and all that. Unless WE get a Deus Ex Machina... Tongue )
Aniuch - 2010/4/28
To be honest, I think the protagonists have been getting more and more "good" as time goes on, whilst the paladins are evil as always and the "heroes" are...umm...somewhere halfway between comic relief and jerks.
Also, do you think bringing down Arderas will end up being the whole point of the comic at this rate?
Brian - 2010/4/28
Eh, Anti-Heroes are supposed to be villainous. Wink
(Now, this can be a good thing--cheap underhand tactics are lifesavers. However, if you were to, say, get arrogant and overconfident, you're screwed. Tongue )
Violet Sadi - 2010/4/27
I'd agree, Magic9Mushroom. That doesn't bode well...
magic9mushroom - 2010/4/27
Is it just me, or does Aldran's attitude closely mirror Xykon's?
Maggog - 2010/4/26
You know, people think that fireball was minimized, but you should read the description of a fireball, it is actually a small spot that goes in a direct path and explodes when it hits. It's not a giant fireball all the way, that's why you can fireball something from, let say, a door lock without busting the door
Brian - 2010/4/26
Goin' to be waitin' a while, Bri. (This'll get annoying...) I know I had to when I first started. Every comic's worth the wait, though. Wink
Bri - 2010/4/25
I just read through the archives, and I'm looking forward to updates. (-:
Inkling - 2010/4/24
I think Mr. Quigley could use a Deus Ex Machina right about now. Happy
Brian - 2010/4/24
Yea. I think they'll be captive for rather some time. However, when they seriously begin trying to escape (with Aldran, you learn to seriously doubt that he's actually trying), they'll have hundreds of ways to do it.
(The most Genre-Savvy way, of course, being to accept defeat, that they can't escape, and then have a Deus Ex Machina save them. Tongue )
Aniuch - 2010/4/23
Even if one of them can float/fly through, which seems unlikely (the prison bars are probably made of plotanium [not a misspelling of plutonium, in case you were wondering]), chances are they'll be discovered, the locks are made of plotanium as well or something equally escape-defying. Now would be a good time to get some plot exposition, so maybe they could have an audience with Eldhin or Arderas...?
khoregate - 2010/4/22
Lana can just turn into a bat and fly through plus doesnt she still have her lockpicks ?

Mystic Mist - 2010/4/20
Actually, do you think the prison cell is ghost- proof? It would be so cheesy if Kaal could simply float out of it Happy
By the way, I think this forum is another motivator to visit this site and keeps people attention until the next comic stripe. Thus it lowers the probability of loosing fans. Keep it going!
Brian - 2010/4/18
Lol. I suppose Max's comment is true. In fact, I seem to recall reading a quote involving "mostly dead" and "completely dead". That when sent to kill someone, the former is a failure, the latter (sometimes) a success.
Inkling - 2010/4/17
@Max

Think it'll work? It'll take a miracle...
Max - 2010/4/17
It just so happens that your webcomic here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.
Brian - 2010/4/15
I take it that Scarab was saying that sarcastically?
Scarab - 2010/4/15
The comic is dead.
Mystic Mist - 2010/4/15
I'm sorry if my previous comment sounded stupid or offensive. It is all due to misinformation. I have checked author's comments and the "About" section. There were no informations whether or when the next comic strip will appear (for example, OOTS gives always info about going on a hiatus). If I am wrong about these informations I would be grateful to be proved so. This comic is really great and I enjoy every single strip, that comes out.
It was just the over-a-month delay with no info from the author that made me worried about it. Maybe it would be a good idea to update the "about" section or put an author's message board with information about actual status (like "I need longer break, see you next month").
Now I've seen more speculations about the comic being dead or alive in earlier posts on the forum. I haven't read everything. Sorry about that.
I really hope Viashivon is right about the continuation of the series. Even if it was said in a hostile manner Wink . And thank you, NotSaying, for not letting the flames start!
NotSaying - 2010/4/14
Viashivon, I must say, that was well-said on your part, and I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, but your tone seemed a bit hostile, and while I certainly understand those feelings, it'd be best to suppress that and (at the very least, appear to) be calm in your posts, please.

Why?

Well...you mentioned trolls. Now, I happen to know a few things about trolling. (Regrettably, even some first-hand experience.) People who troll tend to enjoy it. (At least, at the time. Better human beings who fall into the trap of trolls will eventually regret it. Lesser humans, though...) Why they enjoy it varies. My own experience with trolling was a follow the leader; I just said what others had said before me, equally as harsh, fueling the flame. I (rightfully) almost got banned for it. That scar will never leave my record, now. But, at the time, I remember that it felt good. It made me feel better, though I'm not sure why. Perhaps I delusionally thought it was a good thing, or maybe it just...made me feel superior.
That kind of troll needs to be disciplined, as these feelings can get worse over time. (Egos grow, arrogance overrides reason, and people get reckless.)
...But not with words too harsh, because if they feel like you're insulting them, they'll go berserk.

I've also been there next to someone who had fun trolling. He would often go to, say, a Naruto forum, then start a new thread, with words such as "X is gay" and watch the flames burn. For an even more intense inferno, he'd back it up with evidence for a grander blaze. Why? Because he felt like messing with other people, I believe it was. (Either that, or trolling just for the sake of trolling.)

So, in general, I've found that trolls WANT people to respond. They want flames to feed off of. They will try any dirty, cheap tactic to get someone cursing profanities at them, because in some sick, twisted way, they find it entertaining. And worse, it only takes one to set off a chain reaction, with others following the first.

Does it need to be stopped? Yes, it does. But your words seemed a bit too fierce. I fear they'll feed the flame, instead of crushing it. Fighting fire with fire, BAD idea. Your scorn of their comments is justified. But it might be the exact thing they were hoping to get as an answer, just to make someone angry. You put a strong voice into your words, a very intense rage. But that's what most trolls want--and those that don't want it are rarely scared of it. Instead, you should try a more calm approach. Even if you yourself are outraged, expressing this is not a good idea, so instead, you must get the appearance of a calm, cool supporter who points out all the flaws in the troller's logic, why it's bad, why they should stop, etc. I feel you will find better success in that manner.
Viashivon - 2010/4/13
Seriously people? Do you not read? I believe it has been said countless times that this comic is not dead until the author (Jordan) says it is.

Are you suggesting that it is dead because you want it to be? Are you too stupid and just can't understand the concept of "Not dead until I say it's dead"? Or, are you just trolling for arguments to feel better?

Either way if you don't have something constructive or funny or pertinent, shut the hell up.

If you want to go, go. If you want to stay, stay.

Just enjoy the comic when it comes along. And when the comic comes out and it makes you laugh out loud, be happy that it didn't cost you a dime for a little "this just made my day" pleasure.
Mystic Mist - 2010/4/13
Too bad, this comic seems to be dead. And I liked it so much Sad
Brian - 2010/4/8
"3: If 2 is impossible, try to pick the lock if anyone can, then you've got 2 people free, at least one of which is guaranteed to be good at killing things."

Very, VERY possible, considering Lana has previously proven she doesn't use vamp abilities exclusively.

"4: If none succeed, expect deus ex machina in the form of Aldran's brother coming to free him as part of the "Plan""

Nah, that's not a Deus Ex Machina. Not random enough. Tongue

4a: A real deus ex machina.
4b: Brother to the rescue!

I think those are some very good ways. 'Cept Deus Ex Machina can be a lot of things, and that's one I would personally love to expand upon some time. Wink
Crazed - 2010/4/6
“I have just discovered the wonders of the RSS feed and was hoping that this comic had one, and it does. It's just that according to the feed, there have been no updates to the comics. Ever. When I first got the OOTS RSS, it listed every single comic ever posted. Is there something wrong with the RSS feed or is it just normal?”


It lists the latest 10 comics.
Chameon - 2010/4/5
Mmmk, sorry if I spoil the story, I'm going to give each escape method I can think of that is possible (But not probable by any means.)

Feel free to put up a betting pool on internets and cookies.

1: Look for singe marks from poor Aldran's fireball. If there ARE any, that means that that area is not immune to magic. Send Kael through it, listen for the screams of pain, then laugh.

2: Presupposing 1 is not possible, attempt to polymorph if possible into SOMETHING small enough to go between the bars.

3: If 2 is impossible, try to pick the lock if anyone can, then you've got 2 people free, at least one of which is guaranteed to be good at killing things.

4: If none succeed, expect deus ex machina in the form of Aldran's brother coming to free him as part of the "Plan"

5 (If playing Dark Heresy): Roll 6 righteous furies when tapping the entrance.
Bob - 2010/4/4
The issue is that BU is too big yo!
Eldar Ditto - 2010/4/3
I have just discovered the wonders of the RSS feed and was hoping that this comic had one, and it does. It's just that according to the feed, there have been no updates to the comics. Ever. When I first got the OOTS RSS, it listed every single comic ever posted. Is there something wrong with the RSS feed or is it just normal?
~Secret~ - 2010/4/3
“but a more realistic view is that Anti-Heroes doesn't update on any schedule: it updates when there is time and it is convenient to do so.”

Yeah the last comic I read that said it would, 'update when I can' started off great, updating twice a month, which is acceptable for me, but soon got to once a month and then never updating.......
After a year and a half of no updates the author will still come to the site sometimes saying how she's sorry and will try to update soon.........I do still go there about once a month though, so I guess that says something.......
Gnoya - 2010/4/1
OH look a new Comic!!

Aprils Fools..

I know, I know it was a total stretch for even a joke.. At least April Fools jokes should be at least believable..
Crazed - 2010/3/31
“Mass-effect 2 killed anti-heroes”


Zarah barely played ME2 - that is certainly not the reason for inactivity. Happy And again, it isn't dead.
Inkling - 2010/3/31
"I'm not dead yet! I think I'll go for a walk..."

"Oh, shut up, you're not fooling anyone, you know."

"I feeel happpyyyy!"

Just thought I'd throw a little Monty Python in there. Seemed appropriate.
Brian - 2010/3/30
Yup. Great optimism, people. [/sarcasm]

No, Anti-Heroes is not dead. You're being pessimistic.
Of course, by no means do I expect anyone to be an optimist (updates when promised, updates on a semi-regular basis, updates every week/month, that kind of thing), but a more realistic view is that Anti-Heroes doesn't update on any schedule: it updates when there is time and it is convenient to do so. Meaning, it will constantly risk losing a fans, and will always be at risk of death by some other factors--

But it's not dead, yet. Of course, I'm pleasantly surprised when the comic does update--and that's comment worthy. But due restrain yourself from complaining about the status quo--meaning, don't complain about there NOT being a comic. If you want a comic which updates when you want it to, make one yourself, don't bother others with this.

(Remember my comment about flaming? Yup, still applies.)
Gnoya - 2010/3/30
Ohh big surprise No updates.....
josha - 2010/3/30
Mass-effect 2 killed anti-heroes
josha - 2010/3/30
Anti-heroes is dead, accept it.
FlaminCows - 2010/3/29
I bet one internet that it will be two weeks from now.
GT - 2010/3/28
I am now officially taking bets on when the next one will appear.
leper0messiah - 2010/3/26
I just realized it's been awhile since we've seen Kaal, and he gota new design! Very happy
Clertar - 2010/3/21
Cool as always, keep'em coming Happy
Ben Harrison - 2010/3/19
I agree with Chameon's theory; Aldran always has something up his sleeve (even when he doesn't have sleeves).
Squeamish06 - 2010/3/19
Like hell, Llamalord! This man owes us his soul! HIS SOUUUUL

Or at least an update. Jeez, what's with these vector-based comics? Why are they always late, no matter who puts 'em out?
Llamallord27 - 2010/3/18
meh, comix is comix. and u dont really owe us anythin, so dont worry about it. we're happy w/ anything you give.
Leper0Messiah - 2010/3/18
new comic makes me a happy boy! Glad to see things continuing, and I'm curious about this cage of spell minimizing. Hope to see more soon Very happy
Crazed - 2010/3/17
@Ben Harrison:

“PS: I keep getting "e-mail address is not valid" when adding my e-mail to my posts.”


Hm, really? Could you please type the email address you were trying to use? Or, if you'd like, you can email me at crazed@antiheroescomic.com. Happy
Chameon - 2010/3/17
Hello all, am a big fan of this comic. Hope the author enjoys making it and has many good days. Ah, and I'm also a side-show conspiracy theorist, so my theory is that Aldrin and Kaal are just messing around... Well ok, Kaal is just failing at his spell test and Aldrin is just messing around.
Squeamish - 2010/3/15
For god's sake, update, man!
Vizen - 2010/3/14
@blakjak: It's likely the prison is run by one of the other divisions, considering there's more than just the paladins there.
Ben Harrison - 2010/3/13
Like all the others said, I don't mind the wait. As long as you enjoy creating it, we'll enjoy reading it. And Kaal's spell... hahaha.

PS: I keep getting "e-mail address is not valid" when adding my e-mail to my posts.
Malygoss - 2010/3/13
Damn... I wonder if Rich read this...

Now I canĀ“t tell what is better... if actual fire ball or dancing knights
Ted Elderhi - 2010/3/12
Sweet! Found this comic exactly a week ago, and I love the dam thing!
Dvandemon - 2010/3/12
Just noticed you updated the character's looks. Just like the Giant Very happy
Dvandemon - 2010/3/12
Nice Wink
Darkdrake - 2010/3/12
I never thought that a fireball could go "bink".

hillarious
Draconi - 2010/3/11
Zomg an update!? ITSA CHRIS...errr... easter? MARICAL!!!!

and i still cant spell XD
Bob - 2010/3/11
Take your time making quality comics. Quite a few of us are college students too and understand what its like to be so busy. As long as you continue on, though, more than a few of us will continue to read Anti-Heroes.
Brian - 2010/3/11
Yay! An update! Very happy

A fairly good one, too. Wink

Can't wait for more! (Well...actually, I can wait. For a month. Or two. Or three... Tongue )
Pkmatrix - 2010/3/10
Yay! Great update, well worth the wait. ^_^
saint - 2010/3/10
I don't care how long the updates take, keep them coming! Happy
Tanner - 2010/3/10
YAY! The comic's back! I needed this, I've had a bad day Sad . I'm a little happy now. Happy
shawn - 2010/3/10
yaay comic!

MTONinja - 2010/3/10
Worth the wait, loved the ending line!
RuneKiri - 2010/3/10
I love Keriss saying "Naw, we got this one ourselves", that was hilarious.

Awesome comic.

Everybody else says it, but i guess one more "I care" wont hurt.
MrDelirious - 2010/3/9
Glad to have you back! This comic is awesome, and it's good to see you're still doing it.
PrometheusMFD - 2010/3/9
Obsessive Compulsively checking the site twice a day for a month finally pays of. Heh heh heh twitch
Klytus - 2010/3/9
Woot! New comic is up! And not-planning-ahead is starting to be seen as a not-so-effective course of action Happy
The Recreator - 2010/3/9
Mass Effect, eh? That slowed down my webcomic's schedule, too. Good to see you're still in the game (the comic one, not the video one Tongue ).
The Big C - 2010/3/9
I see that you updated everyones details too. Very nice to have you back.
i couldnt think of a name - 2010/3/9
(8 new update happy
Towers - 2010/3/9
Very nice.
FoE - 2010/3/9
I care. I just don't want to cause you stress if you can't update.

In any case, great work.
R4ph - 2010/3/9
Sweet, new comic! Awesome to know you haven't given up man, hope you can keep putting updates up as regular as you can
Salokcin - 2010/3/9
Yay comic! 19 Comments already? o_O
Looks like people do still care Wink
Mrkeva - 2010/3/9
It's nice to read a new update, thanks! The punchline is great, but try to show it in the LAST panel - it's much funnier. Keriss' and Lana's last lines are unnecessary here (maybe a facepalm would do the thing?).
Meirnon - 2010/3/9
Oh dear lord. If I wasn't in class when reading this I'd surely be laughing out loud at the second to last panel. I'm having difficulty choking down the giggles...
Inkling - 2010/3/9
Yes!!! When I saw the title change, I thought, "O.o Does that really say what I think it says???"
Thank you.
The Evil Starfish - 2010/3/9
Another great comic there, dont worry about the delays, rushing it means its no fun for you and thats more important then a few people moaning its late, we still care!
Blakjak - 2010/3/9
Epic, new comic Happy

Though I would have expected better from a prison run by Paladins, I mean, isnt prisoner abuse technically a crime? Maybe its just in the grey area.
Caleb - 2010/3/9
Nice strip as always, and I personally don't care if it takes you several weeks between updates, though I'm always happy to read the new strips. I mean, it's not like we pay you or something. Wink
Just keep it up! Happy
Aniuch - 2010/3/9
Wahoo, a new comic! This just made my day Happy
And seriously, people really do care (like me and all the other people who commented).
SamuraiMing - 2010/3/9
Thanks for the next comic Mr.Goat!! Bring on those comics! Happy
Sewerrat - 2010/3/9
great comic
I actually started reading your comic between this update and the last so i've been quite busy Happy
Errick - 2010/3/9
It's good to see you're still around though, I was starting to get a bit worried.
talkamancer - 2010/3/9
Nice update and worth the wait. Please do not think that people don't care. You are on my list of comics which i run down every day. It's always a real treat when the title changes. Thanks for crafting such a great comic and know we understand that real life sometimes makes it difficult to update.
Angew - 2010/3/9
I certainly care. And I can equally certainly understand that even when something (like a comic Wink ) remains a priority, longer delays can happen. I, for one, am content to wait and read the updates when you have the time for them. So keep the comic up!
Kazemi - 2010/3/9
I like how Aldran doesn't even finish his verbal component. Also, I'm going to have to try hitting a fireball back at someone some day.
RobT - 2010/3/9
as do i.
Alsadius - 2010/3/9
I'm pretty sure most of us found you through the Order of the Stick forums. If we can handle Burlew's "schedule", we can handle yours Wink
bubba - 2010/3/9
Don't worry, irregular updates are why people invented RSS feeds.
The Zergling One - 2010/3/9
Heh, nice literal interpretation of the fireball spell. I always think basketball when it clearly says pea in the description.
ArabianNinja - 2010/3/9
Woo update, I love the "Shadow Evocation" Kaal cracks me up.
Simon - 2010/3/9
I care. Happy
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